HI! Seems like ALL the witnesses know about Franz being an apostate & not to touch that book. I think the cover alone would give it away. BUT, if you read the crisis of conscience book on your own- you will get SEVERAL tips on how to proceed. It was VERY eye opening to me & helpful in dealing with my family. GOOD LUCK!
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Will this work?
by SpiceItUp inok. i am thinking of trying this to maybe get my family to start questioning things.. here's what i want to do.
i want to get one of the ray franz books and casually leave it available for them to pick up.
my mother is not that bright to where she may think its something my dad brought home and open it up.
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Any Funny Virgin Honeymoon stories?
by Perfection Seeker inanyone have any funny virgin honeymoon stories?
none here- but my brother & his wife- both good witnesses got married- didn't get to complete the act for 6 weeks- his wife had no idea he was so big- and kept crying & was afraid.
just another "well educated" witness girl.
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Elders kid- thats quite a title to live up to, isn't it? 7 years before you got married- did you get caught? I moved in with my husband 1 year before we got married, but were only roomates :-) (HA HA) That story didn't last long- then I was DISSED. I did marry him though, does that help? :-)
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Any Funny Virgin Honeymoon stories?
by Perfection Seeker inanyone have any funny virgin honeymoon stories?
none here- but my brother & his wife- both good witnesses got married- didn't get to complete the act for 6 weeks- his wife had no idea he was so big- and kept crying & was afraid.
just another "well educated" witness girl.
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Anyone have any funny virgin honeymoon stories? None here- but my brother & his wife- both GOOD WITNESSES got married- didn't get to complete the act for 6 weeks- his wife had no idea he was so big- and kept crying & was afraid. Just another "well educated" witness girl. Do you think they PURPOSELY keep everyone stupid?
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Mom, Where Have You Been?
by Sentinel indear friends,.
just to remind you, my mom has been a faithful jw borg since 1959. she will be 78 in a couple weeks.
she is a widow and lives alone.
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Sentinel- Your mom is mild compared to mine! :-) My mother would be the FIRST to strap on a bomb if the "organization" asked her to. She follows them closer than Osama's clan! You've replied to my posts before- sounds like we have been through alot of the same stuff. When will it ever end!?!? Hey- at least your mom still takes your calls :-)
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Confusion / A Thorny Thought
by Xandria ina thorny thought.
growing up in the jw religion (if you can call it that) was soo confusing.
the terror tactics have left scars on my sisters, brother and myself.
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Joannadandy- I can't believe how your reply was close to how I feel! Isn't it a shame we always look over our shoulders & have to worry how it "LOOKS" to others? I was talking to my sister yesterday about how in our congregation, if a man & woman were alone out in service or dropping one off- one would sit in the backseat. Now, tell me how THAT looked to ANYONE looking at it? Almost suspicious! What are they all afraid of? If a man & a woman are sitting by each other in a car-they'd have sex or something? If two people want to- they will- front seat, or back seat :-)
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Confusion / A Thorny Thought
by Xandria ina thorny thought.
growing up in the jw religion (if you can call it that) was soo confusing.
the terror tactics have left scars on my sisters, brother and myself.
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HI! This is a very intersting post! YES YES YES- I only found out recently how much the Witnesses changed the bible. I had no idea! There are SO many things that I took as truth- but man- now that I look into it- wow- what a world of difference! AND, I always was afraid to say things that were "APOSTATE" and chose my words carefully- only to find out the TRUE meaning of Apostacy is saying there is no GOD. If we were born into the faith & never questioned it- was it really our faith? I "became" a witness by my parents studying when I was 5. So, it was just old hat- NEVER questioned it- then one day when I did- WOW! NO WAY! Our minds become "dull" and just go with it- but once we take off the blinders- don't you wonder how you EVER believed ANY of it?!?! This website is the best therapy I have ever had. Had I found it in 1995- maybe I wouldn't have had two suicide attempts, and over $8000 in therapy bills. VERY HELPFUL!
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No honorable way out
by Perfection Seeker ini am sitting here reading posts & trying to decide how to leave the organization.
i really left years ago- but three years ago got reinstated because my dad was dying of cancer- and needed to be around him.
(great reason, eh?
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Thank you so much for your VERY helpful advice! Unfortunately- we just built a house & live 15 minutes from my family & the hall I grew up in. They have me pegged! I have had this talk with my mother- in fact I just told her yesterday the best thing about being disfellowshipped was not being in her claws & grasp & under her constant guilt. My mother NEVER lets up. The congregation has pretty much let me go- I mean- if i see them, some shun me- since I was reinstated then stopped going. Some try to encourage me- but for the most part- it is my mother. She is not a healthy mother- if you don't email her in the morning & at night- she has a hissy fit- and doesn't mind showing it! I've been to two therapists- and both have said it is not healthy how she is with her children. (I am married, 33 years old- still she "mothers" me) AND, I never brought up the witness stuff to either therapist- so they didn't even know the WHOLE story! My mother KNOWS how I feel- I told her the other day that I have a better relationship now than I did for 28 years sitting at the KH! She just can't get it through her head. My husband says stop trying to justify yourself to her, but this woman is powerful & knows all the buttons to push! My husband is pretty much here to stay with his job- but if he ever loses it- we will be SO far out of here- we'll leave tread marks across 3 states to get out of here! :-) The WHOLE problem is my dad died two years ago- so my ENTIRE family says "Dont you want to see your father again?" That pushes MAJOR buttons- and they know it. Sounds like from this board that time is the key- takes time to distance yourself, and time to figure out your own mental health is important, and not live a lie. I always tell my husband going to another church, and being HAPPY, but not be able to tell your family & be PROUD of FINDING god- its like being "in the closet" so to speak. Its hard- but for THEIR own good I don't tell them. It is all so sad. So many lives ruined. Since my ENTIRE family- over 40 members are ALL witnesses- do I "ruin" (or so they say) a "happy" family & tear them apart- to do what ONE of me needs & wants- or just go with the flow to please ALL of them? Its a no win situation but after over 15 years of wanting to leave- this website has given me MUCH strength & help. For that I am SO grateful! (Pass around the collection plate- I'm in! LOL) Thanks again! MElissa
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Run into ANYONES hands!
by Perfection Seeker in.
nevermind :-)edited by - perfection seeker on 27 june 2002 23:53:22.
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Nevermind :-)
Edited by - perfection seeker on 27 June 2002 23:53:22
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MY ANNIVERSARY!!
by starfish422 intoday is 9 years since i made my stand against the oppression.
in celebration, i offer my favourite song by sloan (for you non-canucks, a great canadian band from halifax, nova scotia).
i sing this song at the top of my lungs when it comes on the radio, because i know how much my father would hate it.
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Can't wait to be able to post a "9 year" posting in here :-)
CONGRATS
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No honorable way out
by Perfection Seeker ini am sitting here reading posts & trying to decide how to leave the organization.
i really left years ago- but three years ago got reinstated because my dad was dying of cancer- and needed to be around him.
(great reason, eh?
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Thanks to all who have replied. LOTS of information to absorb. I VERY much appreciate the time & words. :)